If I remember correctly the topic of the discussion was about the topic if software engineering is really an engineering discipline or rather a craftsmanship:
Are you sure that what you do is software engineering? NASA is doing software engineering!
In commercial software the average cost for a line of code is estimated at 5$.
At NASA the average cost for a line of code is 5'000$.
They are not just Pair Programming, what they do could be called Swarm Programming!
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